MyDD :: It's going to be Pawlenty

It's going to be Pawlenty

by Blazers Edge, Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:52:58 PM EST

Courtesy of US News and Reports: http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-comm erce/2008/06/19/source--mccain-vice-pres ident-search-now-focuses-on-pawlenty.htm l

"Internal McCain polls show that adding Pawlenty, 47, to the ticket would help McCain win not only Minnesota but also the neighboring state of Wisconsin...a close Pawlenty confidant [believed Pawlenty] has a fifty-fifty chance at getting the nod."

SurveyUSA does seem to lend credence to this argument as Pawlenty gave McCain quite a boost in its May Minnesota poll. http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2008/ 06/02/vp-matchups-in-minnesota-pawlenty- helps-mccain/

Either Obama or McCain is bluffing about Minnesota (Obama not running his GE ad in Minnesota, the increased chatter about Pawlenty). With the exception of the Rasmussen poll in Wisconsin and the last SurveyUSA poll from Minnesota, all the other polls from these two states show Obama up fairly comfortably. Don't know what to make of this development yet though Pawlenty appears to be the odds-on-favorite at this point for McCain's VP.

As for Pawlenty himself, the guy looks great on paper. His wife allegedly has some strong contacts and cred in the evangelical community. However, if this guy is such a stud, why did he only win the gubernatorial race in 2006 by a whopping one percentage point?

Other interesting nugget: SurveyUSA has been polling Carly Fiorina and Claire McCaskill as possible running mates this past week (they seem to want to poll everyone but "the lady" herself, except for that one time in Michigan). I suppose it's no surprise that both McCain and Obama drop a couple points with either woman on the ticket, as some voters appear to be viewing such moves as panders.

I would like to see more Obama/Clinton, Obama/Clark, and Obama/Biden polling the next couple of weeks. These three, in my opinion, are Obama's best bets now that Mark Warner has eliminated himself from consideration. PPP has polled Clinton as VP and she has outperformed by a significant margin Ted Strickland in the state of Ohio and even bettered slightly John Edwards in NC and Webb and Kaine in VA (of course she doesn't even come close to my man Mark Warner's in terms of VP polling in VA).

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hhmm.... (none / 0)

interesting. but not worrisome.

i think the only GOP ticket that won't be beat is McCain/Palin.

"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg

by canadian gal on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:58:57 PM EST

Re: hhmm.... (2.00 / 1)

I really haven't seen Palin discussed outside of the right-wing blogosphere. She's not on any "short-list" that I've seen from any reputable news organization.

I'm really not that worried about her either; the cross-tabs are just terrible for any woman VP not named Clinton. She may be overhyped anyway. That's a pretty strong statement from Pawlenty's people about him being a 50-50 shot.

by Blazers Edge on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:02:20 PM EST
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really... (none / 0)

i thought i heard this on msnbc. but i think she is a dark-horse.

"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg

by canadian gal on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:08:00 PM EST
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Re: really... (2.00 / 2)

MSNBC, reputable news organization?

I really think Palin would actually be a poor move by McCain; the polling for women on either side as VPs for McCain or Obama have been terrible, especially the polling for Obama favorite Kathleen Sebelius (except for the state of Kansas).

Palin seems overhyped in my opinion; at least Pawlenty can say he's won two statewide elections in a state filled with liberals. My understanding is that the registration advantage that Republicans have over Democrats in Alaska is still pretty wide; her win in Alaska doesn't strike me as particularly impressive.

by Blazers Edge on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:12:34 PM EST
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Re: hhmm.... (2.00 / 1)

You know, I knew nothing about Palin until I started doing research on VP choices. The woman is like the Republican Party's best concealed weapon ever - we need a Hillary Clinton level debater combined with a Democrat who's reputation for integrity is beyond excellent to even compare to her. I'm convinced that the Republicans would try to run her in 2012 if Obama wins the election.

by ejintx on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:02:35 PM EST
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Re: hhmm.... (2.00 / 1)

Oh, absolutely. In a HEARTBEAT. But we shall see.

"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."

by vcalzone on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:05:12 PM EST
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not likely though... (none / 0)

"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg

by canadian gal on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:10:04 PM EST
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Re: hhmm.... (2.00 / 2)

I wouldn't be sure about that. Sarah Palin is COMPLETELY unvetted. And we are looking from the perspective of being... y'know... tolerant. I am not certain that the GOP would elect a female VP, even if she IS highly appealing.

"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."

by vcalzone on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:10:34 PM EST
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Re: hhmm.... (none / 0)

I haven't trusted Palin ever since he tried to sell me that dead parrot. Besides, he's not a citizen, is he?

by Captain Bathrobe on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:17:14 AM EST
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Re: hhmm.... (2.00 / 1)

Palin's a woman.

by ejintx on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:18:09 AM EST
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Re: hhmm.... (none / 0)

I know, I was talking about a different Palin. ;)

by Captain Bathrobe on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:28:07 AM EST
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Re: hhmm.... (none / 0)

Believe me--Sarah Palin, the one time mayor of a small town with a (little-used) degree in Journalism, possessing not a single shred of foreign policy experience, less than two years stewardship of perhaps the smallest state in the union (a state that derives 95% of its income from North Slope oil) has ZERO chance of making the ticket.

None. What. So. Ever.

All of that aside, I think she's a decent Governor; compared to Frank Murkowski, it would be hard for any Governor in our state not to seem like a huge improvement.

I do think it will be a woman--Kay Bailey Hutchison, having already announced her intention not to seek re-election in the Senate, would be a perfect choice. She has a lot of experience in the Senate and would be a much more credible VP candidate.

"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."

by AK Democrat on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 04:37:56 AM EST
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Re: hhmm.... (none / 0)

When I was in Anchorage, I met a semi-crazy lady who told me that if you're going for a long drive, you have to make sure you stop at the grocery store in Wasilla to get all stocked up. She would go on and on about this. Whenever I see a reference to Wasilla, and by extension Sarah Palin, I always think of that damn grocery store.

That said, I completely agree with you about her national prospects at this point in time. No way is it going to happen. Among other things, with McCain's age issue, they are going to want a VP pick who appears 110% ready to take over. Imagine the mayor of Wasilla running the whole country.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Steve M on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:04:43 PM EST
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Re: hhmm.... (none / 0)

It's true, too--the Mayor of Wasilla, with less than two years experience as the Gov of a tiny state, is in no way even remotely ready to run the country. And there's no shortage of semi-crazy in the Valley! : )

I agree, his VP needs to be ready on day one (to borrow a phrase).

"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."

by AK Democrat on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 06:32:47 PM EST
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Another note (2.00 / 1)

The four most important voices to be heard from regarding the offshore drilling debate are as follows:

Hillary Clinton
Mark Warner
Mark Udall
Tom Udall

These four will be serving as Obama's de-facto vice presidental candidates, regardless of who he chooses. If these four bail on him (Hillary and Obama are probably equal on the environment, Warner is as good as one can be in a conservative state and the Udall bros are hardcore environmentalists), he's stuck on an ocean all by himself on this drilling issue and he may be forced to once again, fold his tent on this issue.

Take Jim Webb's name off the VP list; he stuck a knife in Obama twice this week already, one on the offshore drilling and the second on FISA.

by Blazers Edge on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:59:13 PM EST

Re: Another note (none / 0)

Jim Webb is a snooze. His name was worth considering at one point, but voters don't care and he doesn't seem to want the job.

Glad to see McCain may be making the first move, though. Really damn foolish if this isn't a fake article.

"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."

by vcalzone on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:06:32 PM EST
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Re: Another note (1.00 / 0)

Take Jim Webb's name off the VP list; he stuck a knife in Obama twice this week already, one on the offshore drilling and the second on FISA.

Man thats so wrong on so many levels. even if you ignore the drilling and btw stick the knife in bill richardson too and seems like slowly some more democrats coming on board on oil drilling.

BUT---To name FISA as an issue of back stabbing Obama ? because webb stood up for no compromise on FISA...? Hmmm

Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!

by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:35:39 PM EST
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Re: Another note (none / 0)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Webb all in favor of the FISA compromise; wasn't he in favor of the original FISA bil last year. If I'm wrong, I'll revise my opinion, though the point remains on the offshore drilling issue.

By the way, I think Richardson sucks despite his impressive resume. He'd be a terrible VP pick for Obama.

by Blazers Edge on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:51:02 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (2.00 / 1)

Here's the thing - I know many a conservative who would only vote for McCain if he chose a strong conservative to run with him or not vote at all. Is it worth it to challenge Minnesota and Wisconsin but lose Missouri and Ohio?

I still believe that Hoeven, Palin and Sanford are dangerous - especially Palin.

by ejintx on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:59:41 PM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (2.00 / 1)

See my response to Palin above to Canadian Gal. I think we're all overhyping her a little bit; she won in a state swamped by Republicans. I think she's a little over-hyped in the right-wing blogosphere; Pawlenty is a much stronger choice in my opinion.

Hopefully McCain will do us a favor and pick Romney; he was the only Republican in the race who I considered to be a bigger tool than McCain.

by Blazers Edge on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:04:59 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (2.00 / 1)

It's very much worth noting that Palin is known in Alaska for sweeping out the gutter trash that corrupts the state. It's like Wigfield up there. Do Republicans really want that? That's the question.

"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."

by vcalzone on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:07:41 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (2.00 / 1)

I don't think Palin is overhyped at all - I admire her integrity. The problem for her is her relative lack of experience in her governorship and Alaska is a different beast than the lower 48 states. Nevertheless, she's young and attractive and might pull some angry women from the Democratic camp.

It would be nice if McCain makes a big mistake and picks Romney or Jindal, but I doubt it. He'll want someone outside of Washington and a governor - which, of course, Pawlenty is. I just don't think he's conservative enough for McCain to bring the base out.

by ejintx on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:09:07 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (2.00 / 1)

but that's why it is a dangerous ticket. no one votes for the VP choice, save for maybe in a tightly-knit race (like on the dem side) the repub base have no other choice which is why palin is the most dangerous.

"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg

by canadian gal on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:12:37 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (2.00 / 1)

Normally, I'd agree - but we're witnessing two very unusual candidates for the presidency. A lot of the old rules don't really apply.

by ejintx on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:16:00 PM EST
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couldn't agree more. (none / 0)

"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg

by canadian gal on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:22:54 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (2.00 / 1)

Palin only had her baby (#5) 2 months ago - and the little boy has Down's Syndrome. The stress on her family already must be intense. No matter how good of a choice she would be politically I hope McCain & the Republicans don't put her in the position of having to choose. They can run her in the future.

by JackieinCA on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:07:55 AM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (2.00 / 1)

She doesn't seem to be the type to be strong armed into something she doesn't want to do - I think she would decline if she didn't want it. I'm worried about her as a VP nominee, but I don't think either McCain or she is entertaining the idea. If I was McCain, however, I'd be in contact and let her make the choice.

by ejintx on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:21:43 AM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (2.00 / 2)

If it's Tim for VP, they're going to pin the bridge collapse on him.

Not wholly his fault, of course, but it happened on his watch.

by jdusek on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:03:15 PM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

maybe NOW his wife will have sex with him.

"Katie, i'd like to use one of my lifelines, i'd like to phone a friend." "governor Palin"

by Doug Tuttle on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:16:31 PM EST

Pawlenty strikes me as (2.00 / 2)

a watered down, more mainstream version of Mike Huckabee; I've always thought that the evalengical populist is the type of candidate that would present the greatest difficulty for Hillary Clinton, so I hope I'm wrong if it's Pawlenty v. Clinton (my point being that from the perspective of winning, if Huckabee were the Republican nominee, I think Obama would be the better bet than Clinton whereas against McCain, I thought Clinton was the better bet. Just one person's unsubstantiated opinion).

by Blazers Edge on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:30:04 PM EST

Re: Pawlenty strikes me as (none / 0)

i dont think clinton will be the vp choice. but i agree with the rest of your comment.

"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg

by canadian gal on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:34:31 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

"However, if this guy is such a stud, why did he only win the gubernatorial race in 2006 by a whopping one percentage point?"

Because 2006 was a very strong D year--i.e. within the state Kloubuchar dominated her Senate race, which on top of the nationwide trends may have helped Hatch keep it closer than he would other years.

by BlueEngineerInOhio on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:35:25 PM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

Speaking as someone who grew up in Wisconsin, the idea that adding Pawlenty to the ticket would somehow win over my home state is just laughable. I doubt that many people there could even name the governor of Minnesota. Poblano came to a similar conclusion a few days ago.

by rfahey22 on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:56:30 PM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

I don't think Nate Silver (aka Poblano) did; it was his sidekick that made the claim.

by Blazers Edge on Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:58:57 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

Fair enough, but the point was sound.

by rfahey22 on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:00:51 AM EST
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So is McCain's camp (none / 0)

lying about Pawlenty's advantage in order to stir something up in the Obama camp? Obama's camp seems to think so or at least is treating Minnesota as a gimme. I really hope Plouffe and company aren't bluffing strength right now.

by Blazers Edge on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:00:49 AM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

If it's Pawlenty and he resigns as governor, what would happen? Would the Lt Governor take over? Or could we please have a do over? (wishful thinking, not really this dumb)

The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"

by Hollede on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:04:38 AM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

You state: " His wife allegedly has some strong contacts and cred in the evangelical community."

I don't think so. Laurie Coleman's claims to fame are her cheesecake photos from a Washington Post fluff piece (search google images...) and her "invention", the "Blo and Go", which allows a person to blowdry their hair hands free. The constant whispers in MN (where I live) suggest that their marriage is unusual at best. She's no ambassador to the bible bangers.

by reconad on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:09:10 AM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

You are talking about Norm Coleman's wife; I'm talking about Pawlenty's wife.

by Blazers Edge on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:10:56 AM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

Yikes. My brain is on cruise control.

by reconad on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 12:29:40 AM EST
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McCain is not going to choose someone... (none / 0)

with a name like "Pawlenty". Although the Democrats may easily end up with a person from a Republican state, with the name "Sabelius".

Democrats are afraid to even mention the potential McCain running mate who would send the Obama team into cardiac arrest: Colin Powell.

And before you can even say, "Iraq", guess what? The people don't care about it anymore. In opinion surveys, it usually ranks 4th or 5th when voters are asked to rank their concerns.

Somehow, I think the comparison between Colin Powell--trustworthy, record of accomplishment, and a chest full of medals--and Barack Obama, is one that Howard Dean doesn't even want to think about. If he did, he would let out a primal scream....

by BJJ Fighter on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:04:11 AM EST

Re: McCain is not going to choose someone... (none / 0)

Powell hasn't even endorsed McCain and he just said that he'd possibly endorse Obama; his name hasn't even been listed on any short list for McCain by any reputable news organization.

I actually think he'll endorse Obama; he gave Obama props for that Philadelphia speech, which is a tell in my mind. Rice has been praising Obama as well.

by Blazers Edge on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:07:02 AM EST
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And if you believe that.... (none / 0)

I've got some swamp land in Kuwait I'll sell you.

by BJJ Fighter on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:14:24 AM EST
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Re: And if you believe that.... (none / 0)

Why hasn't he endorsed McCain then? Answer that question for me and I'll look into that land from Kuwait.

by Blazers Edge on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:23:16 AM EST
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Re: And if you believe that.... (none / 0)

By the way, I just cited you a source from Pawlenty's camp saying that the governor had a 50-50 chance and you offer Colin Powell without citing to any news organization source. You tell me who's more likely to be picked for McCain's VP at this point.

by Blazers Edge on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:24:38 AM EST
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Re: McCain is not going to choose someone... (none / 0)

You really are an expert on all things GOP. I hope McCain's hired you for his staff.

by rfahey22 on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:21:07 AM EST
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Re: McCain is not going to choose someone... (none / 0)

Sorry, not going to happen. And it isn't "fear" that makes me say it, but just plain ole observations.

Yeah Iraq may not be on the top of people's list, but you put up a few commercials with Powell making a fool of himself in front of the UN "trailers of mass destruction" and his credibility collapses. And as others have noted he is actually more of an Obama supporter, AND on top of that he has been o record as saying he is not interested in politics.

by notedgeways on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 02:02:11 AM EST
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Re: McCain is not going to choose someone... (none / 0)

1) Powell had the chance to run and probably win the POTUS in 1996. Why would he want VP?

2) Powell is a RINO. The base doesn't like him.

3) He has Iraq stink on him.

4) He is 71 years old. McCain is not going to pick another old man as his VP. America isn't going to vote for that ticket either.

5) He hasn't endorsed McCain. I doubt he will.

6) Depends on the survey, I have seen some its the #1 issue.

7) I'll bet ANY amount of money on this not happening.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 02:25:31 AM EST
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Re: McCain is not going to choose someone... (none / 0)

Powell's credibility was ruined after his speech to the UN. His own fault, of course, but he was sacrificed by Bush and Co on the Iraq altar.
I doubt he would support a complicit Bush clone like McCain.
And he has been very vague about who he plans to vote for:

Former Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who served in President Bush's first term, suggested yesterday he may vote for presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama, according to a report in Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper.

The newspaper, covering a speech Powell gave in Vancouver, reported that Powell -- who was also Ronald Reagan's national security adviser -- said he was not ruling out a vote for Obama and he would not automatically support Sen. John McCain.

"I will vote for the individual I think that brings the best set of tools to the problems of 21st-century America and the 21st-century world regardless of party, regardless of anything else other than the most qualified candidate," Powell said at a news conference before delivering the speech, the newspaper reported. "Both of them certainly have the qualifications to be the president of the United States, but both of them cannot be."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail /2008/06/13/powell_does_not_rule_out_sup po.html

"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC

by skohayes on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 07:59:34 AM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

I hope it is going to be Pawlenty. In 2006 he made it by the skin of his teeth.

Tim Pawlenty became the first Minnesota gubernatorial candidate to forgo public funds, and vastly out spend his opponent Mike Hatch. Also in the last few weeks of the campaign an out of state pac came to T-Paw's rescue: Stronger America Minnesota. Oddly enough the pac is based in Virgina and was allegedly funded by Sam Fox and the Swiftboat folks.

Not only that but reports said that the Democratic candidate called a Duluth reporter a "Republican Whore" during a phone interview. No tape of this was ever released. The top of the DFL ticket collapsed in the last few weeks.

My point is Tim is an extremely weak candidate, and this Minnesotan hopes he gets the job and goes down in flames. That will rough him up and would be damaged goods, perhaps unable to challenge Amy Klobuchar for her senate seat in 2012.

by Demrock6 on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:17:54 AM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (2.00 / 1)

If McCain win Wisconsin, I'll eat my shoe. It AIN'T gonna happen!

by Democrat in Chicago on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:24:16 AM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

I think McCain will wait to see who Obama picks for VP before he makes his final decision. He could go with a woman if Obama picks a male. A poll from a couple of months ago showed that Condoleeza Rice on the ticket swung New York into the GOP column.

If McCain decides not to go with a woman, Tom Ridge is a possibility. He could bring in Pennslyvania in the GOP column.

Right now, I believe that McCain is more likely to nominate a woman VP than Obama is to nominate a woman.

Dizzy Zzyzzy

by Zzyzzy on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:41:49 AM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

I think McCain is under more pressure to pick then Obama. It will be a waiting game as you suggest, but I'd hazard a guess that in the end McCain blinks first to try and get a needed bump.

by notedgeways on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:57:20 AM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

Not. A. Chance. Other polls show a Condi ticket getting crushed.

Pick Ridge and you lost the base. So I doubt he will and if he does, all the better to demotivate the base.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 02:26:43 AM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

Pawlenty was talking the other day (I live in MN) that no one from McCain's camp has approached him in regards to the VP slot, and he is not being officially vetted. Not saying he won't be the VP nominee, but Pawlnty will not attract many hard core conservative voters to the ticket. I don't like him, but he is a typical Northern Republican... i.e. more liberal then most southern Democrats. He certainly is more liberal than McCain. It'd be a bit of a risk and I think a shaky way to try and tie up MN and WI, despite what current internal polling shows. Does nothing for OH and FL.

by notedgeways on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 01:55:55 AM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

I'll bet money their internal polling and LV model is wrong.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 02:27:20 AM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

Or they are just lying and deliberately leaking the idea of this internal poll as a way to bluff Obama's team. Obama's team is probably doing its fair share of bluffing as well with the locations in which the GE ad will be played.

by Blazers Edge on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 02:34:25 AM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (2.00 / 1)

Kay Bailey Hutchison.

Bet on it.

"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."

by AK Democrat on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 05:02:07 AM EST

Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

I'll bet against it. Read the quotes again cited in the diary again. Pawlenty stayed with McCain at the beginning and when it was tough.

Also look at the crosstabs for any women candidate for either Obama or McCain; SurveyUSA's polling suggests that any woman VP candidate will be considered a pander.

by Blazers Edge on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 05:10:14 AM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

Ok, so KBH is a pander, while selecting the Gov of the state holding your national convention ISN'T?

Really?

It's gonna be a pander--BIG TIME--and unapologetically so. Wheel out KBH, let her talk about how hard it is for women to make, discuss her struggles, and let the chips fall where they will. That, or choose another generic white guy.

The choice is clear.

"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."

by AK Democrat on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 06:26:12 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

Ick

The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"

by Hollede on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 03:11:15 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)

KBH ick. Think of what she and the Delay crowd did to Texas.

The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"

by Hollede on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 03:12:44 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Pawlenty (none / 0)